AI Advocacy
An interview with Ed Newton-Rex
Ed Newton-Rex is CEO of Fairly Trained, a non-profit he founded in 2024 that certifies generative AI companies for fairer training data practices. On May 15 2025, Lucy van Oldenbarneveld interviewed Ed Newton-Rex who provided his thoughts on AI and copyright.
Ed Newton-Rex understands the value of human creativity and wants to make sure AI companies stop scraping the internet for free and fairly compensate creators (and those who invest in them) for using their work in designing and training generative AI models.
It is imperative that AI companies respect Canada’s legally-established copyright protections and enter into licensing agreements that respect the rights of copyright holders. Canada’s music publishers also expect Canada’s AI framework to respect Canadian IP.
During the interview, Newton-Rex told host Lucy van Oldenbarneveld that ultimately, generative AI models need three key resources: people, software engineers to build the models; they need GPUs on which to run the training process, chips, servers; and they need training data, which is people's life work. AI companies spend millions of dollars per software engineer, spend up to a billion dollars per model they create, but at the moment, lots of them in different countries demand access to that third resource — training data, people's life work — for free.
Newton-Rex is a former executive at Stability AI, where he resigned following the company’s admission that they were using copyrighted material without permission. This is a fundamental problem, he said, because not only are creators not being paid for their work but they are often not even asked for permission. On top of this, the generative AI model is openly competing with the human creators that are training them, which could lead to significant job losses.
Some other key takeaways:
Current practices are unethical and illegal: Many AI companies are using copyrighted content without consent, often through large-scale web scraping.
Disclosure and licensing agreements are essential solutions: He advocates for disclosure of what data models are trained on, and licensing of that data from rights holders. Without disclosure, creators and creative industry businesses do not know if their works were used; without licensing, they can’t be compensated.
Generative AI can be a valuable tool for creators and music publishers, but its development must be grounded in permission and fair compensation: As Newton-Rex explains,“None of this would work without the creators themselves,” and AI companies—not individual users—should be held accountable for exploiting creative work. He encourages the use of “fairly trained models” that license all their training data, not just selectively, and wants to see existing laws upheld to ensure creators are paid when their work is used in AI training.
Growth of AI for all Canadians
Theo Argitis spoke with ICMP director general John Phelan in Ottawa on June 6, 2024. Watch the full conversation below.
AI Resources
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Means & Ways: Canada should resist efforts to exempt AI companies from copyright legislation, global expert says
June 2024
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MPC Submission to the Government of Canada's Consultation on Copyright in the Age of Generative Artificial Intelligence
December 2023
Statement on AI Training
“The unlicensed use of creative works for training generative AI is a major, unjust threat to the livelihoods of the people behind those works, and must not be permitted.”
- 10,000+ authors, musicians, actors, artists, photographers, and other creators
On October 22, 2024, MPC signed the Statement on AI training, an open letter from thousands of authors, musicians, artists, actors, and other creators around the world. Training generative AI on people’s work without permission must not be allowed. Please sign the letter below.